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December 26, 2018 - Does this interview build confidence that #MVHSDowntown was well thought-out? Have a listen, as Oneida County Executive Anthony Picente, Talks #MVHSDowntown Hospital & Parking...

You'll also hear comments regarding; a Utica #Nexus Center, the Utica #AUD, and proposed Utica U-District.


December 10, 2018 - Officials deny rigging hospital site study, but who accused them?

Their emails make it pretty clear, Steve DiMeo and a few politicians (Brindisi & Picente) rigged hospital siting, no accusing required!

Plus, MVHS CEO Scott Perra already confirmed it in April of 2017, "Our Politicians Are The Ones, Mr Tony Picente, Anthony Brindisi and Mayor Palimeir...". This was repeated a few days later by MVHS COO Robert Scholefield, have a listen as Mr. Scholefield states, It Was Made Clear To Us...


November 20, 2018 - Folks are reading the latest and massive hospital SERQ DEIS document! Reveals new Risks beyond the Regular Upstate Train Derailments.

Seems their ill-conceived downtown hospital would have a shaky foundation, read Geotechnical Problems with Pyritic Rock and Soil....

Would their proposed "floating foundation" and no basement solve this?


November 15, 2018 - SEQR DEIS for the *proposed* downtown hospital...

Public hearing December 6th and comments due by December 27, you can explore it here: MVHS DEIS.


November 8, 2018 - Scott Perra exiting sooner Than Planned as new MVHS president/CEO announced...

Story reveals, incoming CEO... "Stromstad said she’ll be willing to sit down and talk to members of the group #NoHospitalDowntown who oppose the downtown location for the hospital." Wow, that sounds great!!


November 7, 2018 - Elected News' Luke Radel offers another Video...

Why so much parking? What other city bulldozes historic buildings, streets, alleys, and businesses for surface Parking?


November 6, 2018 - Today marks one year anniversary since CEO Scott Perra signed the MVHS C.O.N. more here on the MVHS C.O.N.


October 22, 2018 - Today in #MVHSdowntown Hospital Concept news, former Utica mayor Tim Julian and SEQR/SEQRA...


October 4, 2018 - A 12-year medical professional, and former MVHS employee, speaks out...

Full story at Rome Sentinel. In case you missed it, so too had a very prominent Utica doctor, Christopher Max, MD, Denounces Downtown Hospital.


September 17, 2018 - Better Oneida County healthcare and a streamlined City of Utica hospital effort has become a political boondoggle. A city Democratic voter is calling it Brindisiemailgate...

Now a #NoHospitalDowntown group member says, #WriteInHeath, DO NOT promote Brindisi to Congress, and starts a new Write-in Heath Phillips Facebook Group


September 14, 2018 - Rolling out our advertising wave number one, their concept is far from a "done deal". Is this Oneida County's, Utica's, Hospital of the Future?

Two weeks since COO Scholefield said they'd announce the bank for their $180M loan. Is it proving hard to insure a "red zone" hospital?


September 12, 2018 - We are encouraged by new words from Assemblyman Brindisi...

Historic preservation, and Downtown Utica, hear Assemblyman Brindisi's Own Words

A #NoHospitalDowntown member commits funds to oppose downtown hospital concept...

As we await overdue word on the $180M Mohawk Valley Health System Loan...


August 25, 2018 - "A Hospital Is Coming, A Hospital Is Coming!!!" No, it's just another politically motivated real estate scam, born out of another Financial Boondoggle. Consider an exchange prompted by this post...

You can read the exchange in the following link, as a tale of Real Estate Corruption Is Exposed. Shame multiplied many times over as individuals and politicians seeking financial gains, would place a regional hospital beside this... Investigate Upstate NY Train Derailments, how tragic!


August 16, 2018 - We've alerted our leaders, the media, and many others, and try one more time with the Utica Observer-Dispatch.

Use our guide to Investigate Upstate NY Train Derailments


July 27, 2018 - Last week, Brindisi states that his constituents can decide where new hospital is built...

This after "experts" and politicians in #emailgate and here in this video, told the hospital board money is only good downtown.


July 19, 2018 - Watch and discover, "Politicians decided the location of the new Oneida County hospital seven months prior to hospital board's decision..."

A single resident starts a Facebook Project to oppose the political decision after hearing from concerned doctors/board members. Group grows to over 4,000 and now, three years later, is this debacle almost over?


July 10, 2018 - Assemblyman Brindisi tries to explain the political temple called #MVHSDOWNTOWN and #Emailgate...

Or read the Brindisi Interview Transcript. Soon we will create a version that offers the honest answers to the questions posed by Elected News.


July 6, 2018 - Welcome Boilermaker Runners and Fans! We offer a Boilermaker History Lesson, oh, did you hear our politicians want to bulldoze Downtown Utica?


June 25, 2018 - What happen to the senior leaders of Mohawk Valley Health System? The following interview does not help build a case for better healthcare...

... nor for #mvhsdowntown's chances for developing downtown. In fact, their Hospital Concept would do both terrible and irreparable harm to downtown. Which would be a tragedy, as we already have the VERY well-established Oneida County Medical District (OCMD).


June 19, 2018 - We know Politicians placed the new hospital concept into Downtown Utica. We also have evidence suggesting State funding wasn't intended for a "NEW" hospital. To make matters even worse, the concept as proposed is located in a Federal Evacuation Zone...

Thus, can we have any confidence that their New Oneida County Hospital concept is what our regional healthcare requires? No, we can not! Especially after reading, "We should be investing in people and processes, not hospitals", says David Feinberg, president and chief executive of Geisinger Health System. [Ref: PDF]


June 10, 2018 - Today the #SharpeHollister2018 team, Larry Sharpe and Andrew Hollister, passed through the Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood. They seek seats of Governor and Lieutenant Governor and stated, "Eminent Domain is Theft"...

Learn more about #SharpeHollister2018, and track the SEQR Process that the Perverse MVHS Hospital Concept is moving through.


June 5, 2018 - City of Utica finally offers first "Public Input" session, almost three years after headlines started swirling about a new Oneida County hospital! If you're still reading, part of the few who have not already tuned it out, please consider this...

Link to indicate your interest in attending: Pre-SEQR Rally, or just stop by at 4:45 this Thursday. For directions and map, please click this link: 207 Genesee Street, Utica, NY 13501!


June 3, 2018 - Who came up with the idea for the Utica newspaper to dive into the Hospital Debate? Do they truly believe they are able to add a neutral perspective?

Today it is reported that "MergerWatch" calls for more Public Input On Hospital C.O.N. Applications, meanwhile MVHS CEO Scott Perra Responds. For other reporting, see videos from a high school freshman at Elected News: Downtown Utica Hospital Miniseries - Episode 1


May 28, 2018 - Happy Memorial Day from 442 Lafayette Street...

You may learn much more about this property's neighborhood and history here, Spotlight on a Landmark: History of 442 Lafayette Street, first written by Michael Lehman, AIA . Oh, we would be remiss if we did not ask for your input. So if you see necessary edits; typos, name misspellings, etc., just let us know at editor@nohospitaldowntown.com. Certainly let us know if you have historical content we can add... thank you!

Meanwhile, on May 23, 2018 the NYS DEC listed: ENB - Region 6 Notices, Positive Declaration and Public Scoping (Oneida County).

It was stated, "The City of Utica Planning Board, as lead agency, has determined that the proposed Mohawk Valley Health System (MVHS) Integrated Health Campus may have a significant adverse impact on the environment and a Draft Environmental Impact Statement must be prepared. The time and location of the public scoping session is to be determined."


May 18, 2018 - We are a bit behind, but this April 30th Radio Interview explains very well our position on the MVHS proposal...

Mentioned in the interview, thanks again to all who attended a special event, featuring James Howard Kunstler. Event was open to all, but unlike MVHS events we did not have armed guards watching the doors! Hundreds of City of Utica, County of Oneida, and media were invited. However the only elected leaders, Mike Galime and Congresswomen Tenney, made an appearance.


May 15, 2018 - Letter supporting the #NoHospitalDowntown position by a Utica resident and architect Patrica J. Knobloch...

This letter is just one of our many Voices. Meanwhile the "Yes People" are making fact-less, feel good, video ads, and we saw a rare "letter to the editor" as well. However, the letter and videos offer the same, worn out, talking points that cannot be substantiated. Last month twenty Yes Businesses appeared. That's where the Letter Writer and one Video Star came from. These actions do nothing to offset the 60% of property owners not selling their Parcels.


May 9, 2018 - "Open Letter to Mr. Scholefield", by Joseph P. Bottini, Oneida County Historian: "Mr. Scholefield, you said, 'with the primary mission of delivering state-of-the-art healthcare to our region...' Continue Reading


April 29, 2018 - This week offers another special event, please attend and offer your RSVP To Continue The Downtown Utica Conversation...

Map your way to the Fort Schuyler Club in Downtown Utica.


April 25, 2018 - Finally a critical, investigative eye, looks into the Oneida County hospital saga. Please meet a young man from New Hartford, founder (Producer, Editor, & Host) of "Elected News", Mr. Luke P Radel: Episode 1, Episode 2, and...

Also from Elected News on April 17, 2018, FULL INTERVIEW with Jim Brock, Founder with #NoHospitalDowntown


April 12, 2018 - Pure politics - NOT healthcare - continue to drive the "Urban Renewal Hospital" bulldozers forward. This as MVHS receives certificate of need for downtown hospital, in spite of so many missing pieces and a TOTALLY broken process. However, without their "Forced CON" - and the "promise" of $300M - the Tiny MVHS Hospital Admin Group was sliding towards bankruptcy ...STAT, someone call BOA!

We've waited years, but now all we need are those eminent domain letters, then watch their #HospitalOfCards begin to...


April 11, 2018 - Excellent news! Finally we know, Eminent domain settled for new Utica hospital. Now the #NoHospitalDowntown story can become a larger state and national story, as the more than three-year old "Politician's Urban Renewal Hospital" will face the scrutiny it so deserves.

Additional coverage of this news; WIBX, WKTV... and catch ten years of Utica related Hospital Stories Via The Observer-Dispatch.


April 6, 2018 - Download this (355 MB) PDF, and read the MVHS Certificate Of Need (CON); 600+ pages of information costing the hospital over $2M- just in the application fees alone! That cost is on top of $8M in vendor expenses to date. Sad only a few people made the location decision (read "politicians") and they've fully ignored the many Citizens Opposing The Downtown Location.

Much of the development work is portable and much expense can be avoided, simply Move The Downtown Hospital Concept To St. Luke's!


March 29, 2018 - The local Utica newspaper runs a bunch of hospital articles in a reporting spurt. However, we at #NoHospitalDowntown see gaps in their reporting and can only speculate - too little investigative reporting - and too much reliance on MVHS and their $7M+ Worth of New Hospital Vendor Relationships! We're tracking their articles here Utica Observer-Dispatch

Our premise remains, Downtown Utica Is Better without a huge hospital district that would wipe-away small businesses, historic buildings, and a neighborhood that holds great promise for becoming a vibrant and integrating section of downtown. Read the Many Who Agree with our message, "NoHospitalDowntown!"


March 23, 2018 - The vast majority of property owners have no interest in selling. So as hospital administration, and government leaders, turn their backs on residents the community's mood will only continue to disintegrate...

Meanwhile another supporter wants this message to be seen, A New Downtown Utica, #Skyline. This follows a radio show where the host Advocates Violence... While Discussing Topic Of Bullying! ... at minute 11:50.


March 22, 2018 - Today's the big C.O.N. meeting by the New York State Public Health & Health Planning Council...

Please take a seat, years of courtrooms and politics ahead.

* * * * PM Updated * * * * contingent approval for MVHS’s construction application, but the facts remain:

1) NO SITE CONTROL

2) NO C.O.N.

3) NO SEQR PROCESS TRULY STARTED

4) NO BANK COMMITMENT FOR MVHS’s $150M

5) NO $300M FROM NYS GRANT

6) VIRTUALLY ZERO COMMUNITY SUPPORT

Are the politicians working back channels to get partial funding? This game of charades must have Mohawk Valley Health System near bankruptcy.


March 19, 2018 - On heels of news that 95% of property owners DID NOT sign their MVHS Offer Agreements, a new business #enterprise moves closer to opening in footprint of the MVHS hospital concept...

As we have said, the new hospital should be placed at St. Luke's! There are 64-acres there, and downtown's Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood will be just fine!


March 17, 2018 - Two days ago on March 15, 95% of property owners said no to a downtown hospital. Not to be deterred the political "Yes People" released a statement yesterday containing nothing but very old news; Read / Listen Here. Why? Just the Rome paper reporting? We're talking about this Here

While the Rome paper printed old news, the Utica Observer-Dispatch printed true news, MVHS ending outpatient surgery at Faxton Campus, which followed this news, Health system moving outpatient medical imaging services . Between MVHS closing and laying off staff, and property owners not selling, one can understand why the old news about the unpopular downtown concept was republished.


March 16, 2018 - Yesterday 95% of Downtown Utica property owners said: "No Hospital Downtown!" Listen Now!

For a quick translation, please Click Here!


March 14, 2018 - Is MVHS seeking funds for Healthcare or Urban Renewal?

From all indications, MVHS's operations must be seeking cash too, Assets Are Plummeting and this, MVHS Selling Recently Purchased Healthcare Operations. As we've look at this fiasco for three years, we know Mr. Forbes will need the skills he learned in #Theater, #HamiltonCollege


March 13, 2018 - Utica hospital history, today's concept nothing like the past...


March 12, 2018 - In the news, opposition to Utica's downtown hospital concept...

Our prediction for this week's MVHS "press effort" is posted here Marching onward, later this week, MVHS will...


March 11, 2018 - For well over two years the Mohawk Valley Health System has heavily promoted a huge real estate concept for land they do not own, on property Occupied By 40 Businesses on 80 Different Downtown Utica Parcels.

Essentially MVHS has been attempting to brainwash Oneida County residents with a...

Marching onward, later this week, MVHS will; 1) release One More Business from their proposed "Hospital Footprint", 2) they'll announce that the Utica Paint Building will be saved and restored, 3) state that "MVHS is listening and working with the community", and 4) their "Once in a lifetime concept is gaining traction."

Will our predictions prove correct? Time will tell as March 15th quickly approaches; According to an email from MVHS, the purchase option agreement has been extended to March 15.

In reality their downtown hospital concept continues to fail, on many levels, and their brainwashing techniques will continue.


March 4, 2018 - In Utica City Hall, a Planning Board meeting changed its format and plenty of people took notice (more on that later). However it took the hospital debate into a new phase, and today the newspaper responds...

What is a bully? Who was the first bully, and what are the stories behind the faces? We will lay it all out at Faces of "Yes", "No", and all the others


February 22, 2018 - We are tracking the implications and greater risk of Moving Oneida County's new hospital within 2,000 feet of the CSX railroad tracks in Downtown Utica

Why place a critical community asset into an area of greater risk? "It's a small risk", or "A derailment will never happen"...

Too many reasons not to move a huge hospital into a small Downtown Utica, and many great reasons to Build IT at St. Luke's!


February 17, 2018 - Last night someone placed threatening posts on our Facebook Group page. We issued a statement as soon as we were made aware, see this Tweet and below. Tonight one Local Media Is Covering the story, and you may join our conversation Here.

The Downtown Utica hospital story has always had a dark underside. Perhaps now the truths of Their Downtown Hospital Concept will come to light? As a result, the $300 million grant will be properly applied to healthcare improvements on the property that Mohawk Valley Health System owns today, without destroying a Downtown Utica Neighborhood!

We are tracking coverage of this story, read City of Utica Planning Board & MVHS's SEQR Review as the Utica Observer-Dispatch does as well. A serious matter so we will add additional information as and if it develops.


February 14, 2018 - Happy Valentines Day Downtown Utica! Business and property owners love the Historic Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood. One property owner in the hospital footprint continues their expansion today...

We don't see a downtown hospital in our future! Downtown has been on the right Comeback Trail For Years! Sad that better regional healthcare, our $300M investment, has been derailed and postponed by political quests.


February 10, 2018 - Last year MV EDGE president, Steve DiMeo offered Warning To City: No Garage, No New Hospital. Taxpayers then learned about a secret meeting, then a "M.O.U." turned into a "M.O.A.", as #NoHospitalDowntown tracked the M.O.U. / M.O.A. Headlines.

Eventually the Oneida County Executive and City of Utica Mayor signed an agreement. However today we learn the mayor had no authority to place taxpayers into this debt: Palmieri-Picente-MVHS Downtown Utica Hospital Parking Garage Deal Is Meaningless

This means Mohawk Valley Health System's request for a Downtown "Certificate of Need" (C.O.N.) is severvely impaired. Now their financial model is even more tenuous, but taxpayers can cheer along with #NoHospitalDowntown. Happy as we've always known this was a #HospitalOfCards.


January 25, 2018 - Utica, Oneida County, Have No Plan! After three years, our region's $300M "Oneida County Healthcare Facility Transformation" is a finger-pointing mess...

The Responsible Parties tried mixing failed and outdated urban renewal policies with healthcare, betting on endless buckets of Albany's economic development funding. Sadly they've fully ignored the Taxpayers' Voices, but the writing is On The Wall.


January 24, 2018 - Unclear At Highest Levels: Who'd Be Responsible For Initiating/Pursuing Eminent Domain? Who would take-up proceedings against numerous property owners unwilling to sell?

Three years, and the $300,000,000 Oneida County Healthcare Facility Transformation remains only a concept, never-ever had a true plan.


January 23, 2018 - Utica College eyes Dorm Expansion, making way for new hospital at the 64-acre St. Luke's Campus...


January 21, 2018 - Three years ago backers of a downtown hospital concept painted this part of the City of Utica as "crushing blight", and "functionally obsolete". Only today do we learn there are five nonprofits among the 40+ businesses in the Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood...

What city mayor (#Palmieri), what state governor (#Cuomo), sits by as 1960's and 1970's decends onto an urban neighborhood?

Don't worry private businesses, private land ownership and voters are working to turn back the wicked hospital concept. Then we'll get onto the court systems, and perhaps by then MVHS will be entering bankruptcy...

Need more clues? See these people speaking-out over the downtown hospital concept


January 17, 2018 - Thank you for posting #NoHospitalDowntown Member, Mr. Joseph Peter Drennan...

We know others that will join the eminent domain battle as well!


January 13, 2018 - We've found so much! It's exciting to have many sets of eyes corroborating the evidence. While not terrible important, we'd like to thank Governor Cuomo for being cautious!

We believe leaders within Oneida County failed as public servants, and that our Opportunity to improve regional healthcare with $300M has been a debacle. Yes, Oneida County's email dump was very helpful, but we'll surly be testing the withholding of information and their shield of relevance. Please stay tuned to Mohawk Valley Health System's #Emailgate


January 11, 2018 - Read the Michael Vass' article, Backroom wheeling and dealing in Utica may affect NY-22 and other elections...

"It was from January 2015 through September 2015, according to documents provided under FOIA regulations [see below attachment] to No Downtown Hospital and given to M V Consulting, that Oneida County Executive Anthony Picente, Assemblyman Anthony Brindisi, Mowhawk Valley EDGE president Steven Dimeo, Scott Perra president of Mowhawk Valley Health System, and others began to orchestrate their actions. Of note is the fact that planning took place via private emails and in person meetings – which while not illegal is seen as a grey area, denying the public transparency and awareness of what was taking place."


January 10, 2018 - Looking at emails obtained by way of FOIL...

In tweet above, should read "prior to", oh well. Please join our conversation on this at #NoHospitalDowntown.


January 9, 2018 - Three voices in today's Utica Observer-Dispatch, our favorite...

Read, view, and hear Many More Voices. Look for our forthcoming newspaper, the Mohawk Valley Healthcare Herald. Sign the petition too, Place New Hospital At St Luke's!


January 7, 2018 - Did the Utica Observer-Dispatch do any of their own research on Elmhurst Memorial Hospital? This is actually old news and seems a hospital PR piece...

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Today's paper offers a story, Utica Hospital Project Draws Inspiration From Other Hospitals. First, we would like to state that we're very glad that MVHS looked at other hospitals, and not shopping malls, or paper mills, or jails! Our group started Investigating Elmhurst Memorial when it was first mentioned in a MVHS News Release On June 27, 2017.

We'd like to mention that all the modern hospital attributes highlighted would work equally as well - even better - at the 64-acre St. Luke's Campus. And looking further at the newspaper's Gallery Of Hospitals today, it is easy to spot things like; a Starbucks cafe, their restaurant-like cafeteria, a Walgreen's drugstore and other amenities that would keep people "inside" the hospital! That's inside - and NOT - walking the hospital's vast parking lots, to try and visit the parts of Downtown Utica which would have not been Bulldozed!

Join the conversation on Facebook #NoHospitalDowntown


January 4, 2018 - The Utica Observer-Dispatch helps us add to our investigation of St Josephs In Syracuse. Sadly the newspaper misleads the Utica-region with this planted Guest View, where a New-to-Upstate CEO spins a disingenuous tale of his hospital's impact on the surrounding Syracuse neighborhood. We're talking about it here on Facebook. Please Sign Our Petiton(s).


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