Utica-area Hospitals & Healthcare

MVHS | ST LUKES | SEMC | FAXTON | OLD MIAN | CONCEPT | MV HEALTH


#NoHospitalDowntown isn't anti-new hospital, we simply do not want a huge hospital district to bulldoze and replace the Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood.

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Here's Why We Oppose The Downtown Utica Hospital Concept and Many Agree!

By the way, why is the region walking away from the Oneida County Medical District that's already established here: OCMD?

We've asked, and many other people have asked, What's So Wrong With St. Luke's? We are tracking the local Healthcare Headlines in the UticaOD and the Rome Sentinel We're also building a Utica Hospital Timeline.

We are looking at the Benchmark Hospitals that MVHS and others say support their downtown Concept. Another comparison looks at Utica Vs. Binghamton Hospitals, as well as two others; Orange Regional & Guthrie Corning Hospitals and those within Brooklyn, Vital Brooklyn's Healthcare Plan. And the Three Hospitals In MVHS's SEQR Review.

Want to understand larger picture? See these Fast Facts on US Hospitals and 50 Things To Know About The Hospital Industry: 2017.

A new hospital facility and connected medical office building (MOB)... okay, if this is what the region needs, build it at St. Luke's and keep developing downtown as BUD suggests: BetterUticaDowntown. No businesses get kicked aside, historic streets and buildings are saved; the Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood is "hot property" and ripe for further development!

Go back and review the Utica Hospital Affiliation timeline.


January 21, 2020 - In the news, MVHS explores options for future use of hospital buildings. Read the miniscule Hospital Reuse Study Summary. Where is the complete study and what does it report about Utica's hospitals?

Why leave out basic facts from even the summary; St. Luke's is 460,900 s.f. on 64-acres, St. Elizabeth Medical Center is on 22 acres and measures 369,700 s.f., while Faxton is on 7.5 acres and measures (investigating figure...). Look at how well Faxton integrates the #MVHSDOWNTOWN concept! Also on St. Luke's Downtown Hospital Concept At St. Luke's (A) or Downtown Hospital Concept At St. Luke's (B).


February 17, 2019 - Headline sounds positive, MVHS making progress toward hospital merger, groundbreaking, but offers concerns...

"The health system filed a certificate of need application for the transfer of St. Elizabeth Medical Center’s assets to Faxton St. Luke’s Healthcare last month at the direction of an employee of the New York State Health Department, Scholefield said. But it just withdrew the application after another health department employee told the health system not to file the 577-page document — which is filled with financial data that will need updating — until a year before the hospital is expected to open, he said."

...and "Another unresolved issue is the fact that workers at the health system’s two campuses belong to two unions. They will have to consolidate into one union with a common contract before the new hospital opens. “The unions are still contemplating what the next steps are. I’m not involved with that. That’s internal union conversation,” Scholefield said.

Plus, not one campus, but four campuses... The now withdrawn certificate of need application says that St. Elizabeth will continue as an outpatient facility. That’s because the campus includes two buildings expected to continue in use — the St. Elizabeth College of Nursing building, which also contains a sleep lab and a physician office building, Scholefield explained. It also describes the St. Luke’s Campus as a second hospital location for the health system. Scholefield said that’s because its Center for Nursing and Rehabilitation, which contains an inpatient rehabilitation unit, will continue to operate — the only inpatient unit that won’t be relocated to the new hospital building. Some health system medical offices may also remain in a building on the St. Luke’s Campus,, he [Scholefield] said.

So much for consolidation and integration. One might wonder, was the only plan really just to destroy Downtown Utica? Oh and we learn too, MVHS don't own the land yet! Of the "affected property owners... eight are still in negotiations... Four property owners are not negotiating," he said.


June 11, 2018 - New York maintains strict ownership laws, they just about essentially eliminated for-profit hospitals. This article asks, "Would For-Profit Hospital Ownership Improve Quality, Costs in NY?" Goes on to state...

"Promoting for-profit hospital ownership in New York could improve care quality and hospital spending, which are major issues in the state, an analysis showed." and, "Not only did New York hospitals underperform on the CMS Hospital Compare website, but the state ranked poorly on safety scores published by Consumer Reports magazine. New York hospitals ranked 47th out of 50 states, with an average score of 47.2 out of 100 points.". Finally...

A 2014 JAMA* Study found that hospitals converting to for-profit hospital ownership improved their financial position without significantly changing their care quality or share of low-income and minority groups treated.

Further reading at Beckers Hospital Review: Report: For-profit model one way New York hospitals can improve financially.

*JAMA, i.e. Journals published by the American Medical Association


January 22, 2018 - Sounds like MVHS remains on shaky ground, delays, questions, and few solid answers...

Bob Scholefield talks downtown hospital


December 15, 2017 - We're reading, Hospitals: Key considerations in building new versus expansion/renovation and 8 Trends in Hospital Design and Development. We're also wondering, where are the Utica study that gave us the "new hospital" push?


September 17, 2017 - MVHS was shrinking fast years ago...

With their Two Hospital Systems Operate In The Red, where is the funding for the new downtown concept planning and PR push?


April 25, 2016 - Drive miles to regional hospitals around Utica, New York...



July/August 2015 - Read What To Do if You’ve Built Beds and They Don’t Come, which suggests building new beds and hoping to fill them is risky. So why is the poor city of Utica reducing it's premier downtown taxable land mass, and why is MVHS going into such debt?


MVHS | ST LUKES | SEMC | FAXTON | OLD MIAN | CONCEPT | MV HEALTH

#NoHospitalDowntown isn't anti-new hospital, we simply do not want a hospital in Downtown Utica. Here's Why We Oppose The Downtown Utica Hospital Concept and Many Agree!

We're building a Utica Hospital Timeline



No Studies, No Reports, thus we remain #NoHospitalDowntown