We're tracking downtown parking headlines, parking garages, surfaces lots, and the downtown hospital concept. Lots of people work in our Hospitals and most ALL drive to work. MVHS projected their Downtown Hospital Requires 3,000+ Parking Spaces! Why seek this destructive and very expensive move, when today the hospital owns 64-acres at their St. Luke's Campus in Utica's current Oneida County Medical District?
Meanwhile a huge missing and confusing piece remains, "Where will the newly expanded AUD patrons park? And now we see plans for the Nexus Center and U District! Plus the following concept suggests the AUD requires 3,000 spaces: Utica AUD & Apartment Concept. Utica's sports facility is growing, but where are the patrons going to park? Lots of plans for more events, more vistors, more jobs and downtown "economic development inducements", but where is everyone going to park?
We did see a parking plan as part of a proposed Apartment Complex On Whitesboro Street. We heard it came from Utica City Hall, a sports and apartment complex, but would it fit with everything else we here about?
Consider - An illustrated Site Plan showing all the Parking Spaces Around MVHS Downtown.
July 22, 2021 - City Hall annouces a deal that would see a new hotel built upon the Kennedy Parking Garage opposite The Wynn Hospital...
At first blush this seems like a good deal. The devil is in the details, of course, but it's hard to see a downside.https://t.co/7qvHuPA8cy— (((Jubal))) Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) July 22, 2021
This is 57 years after last promise to build a Hilton Hotel in the same place, as part of Utica's Urban Renewal Plan No. 1
July 1, 2021 - Oneida County looks at “Other possible projects include a downtown revitalization project to help county municipalities…” This report doesn't specifically mention The Wynn Hospital, however if federal funds go to parking garage/eminent domain, then lawsuits become federal cases. See, oneida county communities mull how spend american rescue plan funds
June 24, 2021 - No mention of lawsuits against Oneida County's use of eminent domain in today's reporting, Downtown parking: Utica, Oneida County spat over hospital garage only part of the problem
June 15, 2021 - In the newspaper, Oneida County executive clashes with city of Utica over paying for hospital parking garage and on TV, Funding For Wynn Hospital Parking Garage Called Into Question. Seems #TheWynnHospital parking garage has funding issues...
Oneida County is trying to enforce a non-binding memorandum that they've unilaterally changed (removing 500 parking spaces, adding a heliport) multiple times.— (((Jubal))) Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) June 15, 2021
Good luck with that.https://t.co/dqXXDnfO15
Also in the news, "Mayor redirected $3M from Kennedy Garage repairs (URI funds per ESD Eric Girdler) to new Wynn Hospital garage, stating that’s $6M to support garage, on top of nearly $8M in infrastructure." See, Utica committing 3 Million toward Wynn Hospital garage.
June 9, 2021 - More planned funding for parking garage before land is owned, Oneida County Provide $2.5 Million For Utica Parking Garage Design...
The design will cover all the particulars of the garage, including such things as levels, outline and number of parking spots. https://t.co/xM4JYv8FP8— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) June 9, 2021
May 19, 2021 - Eminent domain by Oneida County, for the hospital's parking garage, hits a snag...
Oneida County has received its first lawsuit over the use of eminent domain for a downtown @CityofUtica parking garage... https://t.co/8qu0m5QObw @AJPicenteJr responds #thewynnhospital #hospital #corruption #utica #cuomo— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 19, 2021
Lawsuit filed over Oneida County's use of eminent domain for hospital project parking garage https://t.co/zPVXVf0H5w— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) May 19, 2021
Weird. I can't seem to find anything about a heliport (!) in Oneida County's RPF for Utica's downtown hospital parking garage. At the very least, I'm thinking cars aren't gonna react real well to airborne debris kicked up by the rotor wash from a UH-60 Blackhawk.— (((Jubal))) Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) April 5, 2021
Ongoing Legal issues as City of Utica also discusses use of eminent domain, When and where to voice your opinion on the use of eminent domain for Utica hospital.
Go ahead, lock and load the “naysayer” guns. But my opinion that it’s wrong for Oneida County to use eminent domain on 3 properties (for an unnecessary parking garage we can’t afford) isn’t for lack of me trying to understand the situation better the past 3+ yrs. /9 pic.twitter.com/leWbIDB2G4— Katie (@katieaiello) December 23, 2020
August 19, 2020 - One day we fear, as a result of this fact: Health care workers have been attacked in parking garages for decades. Why haven't hospitals done more to make them safe?, a new hospital at Utica's Oneida County Medical District was the right choice.
September 8, 2020 - At least five places to build a parking garage...
Will #mvhsdowntown ever be completed? Where will funding come from? Does #hospital truly require 3,000+ parking spaces? Will @MVHealthSystem go bankrupt? Where's helipad? One thing is absolutely true, eminent domain not required to for parking garage... https://t.co/OpjHoU5VG1 pic.twitter.com/rmPHMJ453i— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 8, 2020
September 19, 2019 - Downtown Utica Hospital Site Plan Approved, where one may read...
The Planning Board’s vote was unanimous, but the site plan approval is specifically contingent on the health system entering into an agreement to construct a parking garage with an adequate number of handicapped parking spots. “It’s a condition that needs to be fulfilled prior to the building being occupied for its purposes,” said Kathryn Hartnett, assistant corporation counsel for the city. Development of the parking garage has been identified as a joint venture between the city and Oneida County, with the county taking the lead on funding the project. Specific details, such as the exact number of spaces and the cost breakdown, have yet to be released; the firm MARCH Associates Architects & Planners was hired last year to design the garage, responding to a request for proposals for a 1,550-space facility with at least three levels.
September 21, 2019 - Parking facilities constructed under this Project will consist of a three-story, municipally-owned parking garage (1,550± spaces) and multiple surface parking lots (780± spaces), for a total of approximately 2,330 spaces.
Dedicated spaces are summarized below:
Hospital (1,455± spaces)
1,050 spaces (parking garage)
405± spaces (parking lots)
Medical Office Building (MOB) (375± spaces)
375± spaces (parking lots)
City-dedicated spaces (500 spaces)
500 spaces (parking garage)
The parking garage will provide approximately 1,550± parking spaces and the parking lots will allow for an additional 780± parking spaces. Proposed surface parking space needs have been reduced from 1,100± spaces (DEIS) to 780± spaces. The reduction includes the elimination of a proposed surface parking lot originally proposed at the site of the existing Police Maintenance Facility (See Figure 3 of this FEIS Responsiveness Summary).
These parking facilities will be available for use by patients, visitors, staff, and volunteers, with the garage spaces being available for hospital-related parking, as well as to the community for non-hospital related events. (See page 10 of 1007 Ref. FEIS).
Also in the FEIS (see page 474 of 1007, the Traffic Impact Study - Addendum), one reads..
These spaces suggest the Helipad would double as a parking lot, not a grassy lot, or park-like setting.
May 17, 2019 - Today we see the Varick Street Brewery District having parking issues related to new development and a staple event; read Where to park for Saranac Thursdays with Court Street lot closed. We discuss this Parking Issue On #NoHospitalDowntown.
December 30, 2018 - OUR VIEW: Downtown parking must be addressed
October 10, 2018 - Oneida County approves design firm for hospital parking garage
Parking garage for proposed Utica hospital lands design firm https://t.co/ylM9duEkET— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) September 1, 2018
August 8, 2018 - Oneida County earmarks $500,000 for downtown hospital parking garage
This news story, MVHS- Eminent Domain Won't Tie-up Hospital Project and the accompanying Image,
May 17, 2018 - Oneida County pushing parking garage, big bond debt facing residents for downtown hospital parking...
We welcome Oneida County Executive Anthony Picente back into the studio to discuss fatal Yorkville fire, 911 response and proposed downtown Parking Garage pic.twitter.com/t6xfP0h5ih— TALK! 100.7 FM (@_talkfm) May 17, 2018
Is the Oneida County Budget and Utica's ready to fund this parking garage?
May 9, 2018 - The projections of required hospital parking spaces are totally and absolutely suspect, like most figures that MVEDGE has provided...
Anyone know why the proposed #mvhsdowntown hospital needs 3,000 parking spaces for @MVHealthSystem?— Katie Martin (@katieaiello) May 9, 2018
A case study of 11 successful Mid-Sized Urban Medical Centers shows Seattle Children's Hospital had the highest amount of parking spots with 3,100 - the runner up was at 1,500. pic.twitter.com/YtQUlvWogu
Seattle hospital (with LOTS more residents with cars) and 5 parking spaces/bed, yet Utica's proposed downtown hospital with 8 parking spaces/bed, why?
January 9, 2018 - Another concerned Utica resident sees the problem that's well recognized by urban design professionals...
“The latest plan doesn’t seem to reflect any of those concerns..”— (((Jubal))) Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) December 8, 2017
Sadly, that applies to multiple aspects of Utica's hospital project. Minimal greenspace, 10+ acres of surface parking, a "walking path" channeling pedestrians into high traffic zones...https://t.co/pFiXAkBisK
December 9, 2017 - "
The footprint of Utica's downtown hospital project is mostly taken up by sprawling surface parking. The sheer amount of asphalt dwarfs the hospital itself. This render highlights both existing and planned lots. Still up in the air- the fate of the UPD HQ. pic.twitter.com/KLRlpUS30W— Jubal Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) December 9, 2017
November 17, 2017 - Downtown Utica has already been destroyed by surface parking! Now the "yes people" of Downtown MVHS say, "More, more, more"...
So the MVHS downtown hospital site plan released yesterday has roughly 10.5 acres dedicated to parking.— Jubal Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) November 17, 2017
That's just over eight freakin' football fields worth of asphalt. pic.twitter.com/JFHKWMDPT5
November 14, 2017 - Even people in Syracuse have heard about this nightmare (parking) concept proposed in Downtown Utica...
Dear @EmpireStateDev @HealthNYGov @CityofUtica @AJPicenteJr @ABrindisiNY @SenatorYoung @kemphannon @LtGovHochulNY @HammesCompany @NBBJDesign @kway56 @ReclaimNewYork @JamesTMulder @NYGovCuomo we don't want a Downtown @MVHealthSystem !!! pic.twitter.com/whjCD32hBk— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 14, 2017
October 23, 2017 - There is a great deal of evidence that parking is "
August 25, 2017 - No parking garage agreement means no C.O.N., that's why the Utica Observer-Dispatch says...
OUR VIEW: Agreement on parking garage a positive step for hospital project https://t.co/QS8wj9T5BE— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) August 25, 2017
And this from July...
Utica & Oneida Co. must work out plan to pay for new parking garage, operated, maintained by @MVHealthSystemUtica. https://t.co/Q6cHjLzebH— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) July 25, 2017
August 22, 2017 - Reporting from Rome today we read, County, Utica reach tentative deal on downtown parking garage and learn...
July 25, 2017 - We are hearing... "If there's no garage, there's no downtown hospital," Steve DiMeo
July 3, 2017 - Expensive to build parking garages, one to be placed onto the backs of Oneida County taxpayers...
They also would include large surface lot(s) as well, and we have good reasons to believe there's a second parking garage hiding within the "hidden agenda" of their ill-conceived hospital concept!
May 22, 2017 - Too much of Downtown Utica has been rendered into parking...
May 12, 2017 - Looking to Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus, we're reading Move to Medical Campus will mean bigger parking fees for Children's Hospital workers. Still no word on cost to park at future downtown hospital...
April 21, 2017 - Utica parking lot ready for development
January 9, 2017 - In story titled Architects, construction manager named for MVHS hospital project, one reads...
"... in September 2015 that it had chosen a site located between Oriskany, Columbia and State streets and Broadway in downtown Utica for the hospital, assuming that site proved feasible.
December 19, 2016 - Parking garage in downtown at risk of collasping, Utica parking garage getting support...
Utica parking garage getting support https://t.co/wz5FQ6ioHQ— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) December 19, 2016
August 18, 2016 - "Parking: The project will include one or two parking garages; officials are leaning toward two so that one can be reserved for staff and visitors, while the other could be opened to the public after business hours."
August 28, 2015 - Patching Utica’s parking garages
January 19, 2015 - Utica parking garages in disrepair
We believe Utica's downtown hospital concept is a disaster!
May 21, 2011 - Looking back, we have real concern for downtown development, the most recent ($325,000) Master Plan, and parking. Consider this downtown story, A Paucity of Planning for Public Parking.
May 15, 2011 - And Paula Horrigan, a Cornell University professor and one of the overseers of the Rust to Green Utica project, said in Critics assail downtown Utica parking plan...
"...more surface parking is the opposite direction in which cities are going. She pointed out the Utica Master Plan still is in draft form, and called it a
March 07, 2011 - At his “State of the City” address in May, Mayor David Roefaro called plans for a downtown parking garage his “most ambitious project for the city”, read additional commentary at Pondering Parking ... and Park Ave.
April 26, 2008 - Parking garage planned for Charlotte Street
March 16, 2004 - Read the Downtown Utica Parking Study, titled 2004 PARKING PLAN UPDATE: CITY OF UTICA, NY.
Parking lots of cars - cars that are projected to fade from urban neighborhoods - plus many other reasons we list at, What's Wrong With The Downtown Hospital Concept?